Organising For A Change – the podcast for union builders – is back for our fourth series.  We’ve got lots of great guests with priceless insights for you as the series progresses, but we start with the most pressing of issues – how we counter divisive, destructive workplace narratives promoted by Reform and the far right.

Our guest and guide is Hope Not Hate’s Trade Union liaison officer, Matt Collins.  He takes us through HNH’s excellent “five tribes” analysis of Reform supporters which gives us the key to countering ugly negativity in our workplaces (and also in our schools, colleges and communities).

Listen now at bit.ly/o4ac

As ever, our discussion is calm, measured and derived from a combined 80 years of union activism.  Where we disagree, we do so amicably.  But there’s no getting away from the importance or relevance of this debate above all others.

We’re grateful to have the support of Thompsons, the leading trade union and social justice law firm, The General Federation of Trade Unions – delivering trade union education, building solidarity and the home of StrikeMap, Pellacraft, award winning and trusted supplier of promotional goods, and Battersea and Wandsworth Trade Union Council. Thank you all.

Episode run time 34m46s. Organising For A Change is presented by Martin Smith and Simon Sapper. Music is by Scott Holmes. It is a Makes-You-Think production. Contact the show at organising@makes-you-think.com.  This episode was first published on 31 October 2025.  Next episode drops 28 November.

Listen now at bit.ly/o4ac

And do catch up with Martin’s latest blog on the self-same subject,  available here.